It will also be skipped if either Windhelm or Solitude is the only remaining city that has yet to be taken. Ulfric, you can't seriously expect us to give up Markarth at the negotiating table. In most cases, you are given the choice between two possible holds (a major hold or a minor hold). Riften must be returned to Imperial control. Tullius and Ulfric will both agree (albeit with some grumbling), and the meeting will adjourn. You have no say in this part of the negotiations — and in fact you can't do anything other than listen to everyone else. It is not part of any trades in Season Unending because it is implicitly at the heart of the negotiations: the primary goal of the truce is to get the side that does not currently control Whiterun to agree to cease attacks on the hold. I appreciate your loyalty. The "price" for this is to agree to the opposing party's request about Elenwen (e.g., sending her away if the Dragonborn sides with the Imperials). More than was necessary to secure this truce." Jarl Ulfric. The Jarl of Whiterun won't help me capture a dragon as long as the civil war is raging. Out of respect for the Dragonborn and our Greybeard hosts. The Odyssey travels to Orilla upon the request of the Asgard who then offer to upgrade the Odyssey before their mass suicide. (If the deal is even, neither side will stand up and issue this warning that they will leave, with Esbern's speech being preceded by other arguments.). As soon as you do and confirm you want to join, you have started that quest line. Once the negotiations have reached their conclusion, Arngeir will summarize all of the terms that have been agreed upon so far, and confirm those terms with each of the parties. They will each provide a variety of dialogue options, depending upon the progress of the civil war and whether or not the other leader has already agreed to attend the council. The following table summarizes the options available during negotiation if you have joined the Imperial Legion or if you have never joined either side. Even if the civil war has started, these holds are guaranteed to have their original affiliation: the winning side is being asked to give up a hold, and the winning side has also never lost any of its original holds. Nothing more. Should your Speech skill be at least 75, you are able to convince your side that the minor hold has some small advantage. Elenwen will not react in any way to the presence of either Delphine or Esbern, despite both being priority targets of the Thalmor. The following table summarizes the options available during negotiation if you have started Joining the Stormcloaks. ", Galmar Stone-Fist: "You slaughtered them - the women, the children! Scoring System Details further explains the scoring system and the negotiation options, for those interested in a more thorough understanding of the quest. Download Install The primary goal of the truce is to get the side that does not currently control Whiterun to agree to cease hostilities against this hold. If using the console to kill or forcibly return them to their home locations, they will simply walk back to the stairs and continue their endless loop (even walking across all of Skyrim to reach the steps). ", Arngeir: "Take your seat and we can begin. We all wait upon you, Dragonborn. He is initially reluctant, but the fact that a peace council is necessary to defeat Alduin changes his mind. Galmar Stone-Fist/Vignar Gray-Mane: "Besides, Jarl Laila will never agree to..." This quest occurs only if you have not resolved the Civil War Quests yet. If it still does not trigger, all guests should sit down after five to ten minutes of real time. Talk to Arngeir 5. This is a short one-shot quest set in the ASOIAF universe, in the region of the North. I hope you haven't forgotten that little detail?" share. Why should we give it up now?" As detailed above, there are multiple options for the counter-demand, but normally you are able to suggest either a minor hold or a major hold. Each has one persuasion option, which is fastest way to convince them; however, any selection will eventually lead to an option confirming that they will "come to the peace council". Elisif the Fair: "So that's why you're here, Ulfric? We know a great deal about the situation and the threat that Alduin poses to us all. If you fail the persuasion check you instead have to fall back on "You asked my opinion. You will only be allowed to buy Honeyside if Maven Black-Briar is installed in The Rift; you will not be able to skip the normal requirements in that hold to be made Thane. The matter at hand is urgent. The information can still be useful if you decide to pick a side. If you joined the Stormcloaks, you cannot continue with Season Unending until. They will have no dialogue options, and only talk about the truce if spoken to (thus rendering quests such as. Kick the Thal mor out 2.Give Markarth to Ulfric 3.Give Rift to Tullius 4. Arngeir reviews all the terms of the treaty, and the two sides agree to them. I think it's a waste of time. “Season Unending” is a quest option in Skyrim where the player can choose to not engage in violence. Stage 256 of CW releases this hold thus re-enabling the war, and should be automatically triggered when "Season Unending" completes. Arngeir will suggest the Dragonborn speak to both General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak, and extend an invitation to meet with the Greybeards and discuss the future of Skyrim. Leaving High Hrothgar and then coming back can also trigger the meeting. You hope to gain in council what you've been unable to take in battle, is that it?" Return to High Hrothgar for the negotiations. In addition, Delphine will walk up and demand that you kill Paarthurnax, if the quest hasn't already been given. The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Season_Unending?oldid=3099579. If additional terms are accepted and it evens out the treaty, then negotiations end. Quest Giver Sometimes the Jarl of Whiterun does not require this quest and will allow the Dragonborn to trap a dragon even if the war is not yet finished, when all Stormcloak cities but Windhelm or all Imperial cities but Solitude have been captured. Who would like to open the negotiations?" The side that is currently getting the worse end of the deal announces the terms are completely unacceptable and threatens to walk out. Who would like to open the negotiations?" During the negotiations, make the folowing choices: 1) Elenwen stays. Now we'll see if there's anything behind your talk of good faith. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Peace, Galmar. Ensuring the Imperials take Riften and the Stormcloaks take Markarth will mean that one of the holds is always available to take by your chosen faction and the trophy will unlock without an issue from either side. Season Unending: ASOIAF Smallfolk Quest Elsweyr QM (ID: Fg1uup6S) 12/05/20(Sat)20:03:34 No. If a minor hold is indeed given up, Tullius tells the Dragonborn of his displeasure. After phase one of the negotiations, two holds have been exchanged, and the score can range from -2 to +2. It is possible that during the course of the negotiations Esbern will not talk, much like the glitch in. Alternative dealing with choice in Civil War questline (not available if no side has been chosen yet). You butchers!" Listen to Spellcaster - Single by Season Unending on Apple Music. We want control of Markarth. Or can we get down to business?" My legionnaires are disciplined, unlike your..." A mini walkthrough for the War Hero achievement is also included. The trick is not to let anyone else see Legate Rikke attack. You haven't been able to take it back yet. This council is unprecedented. As soon as the negotiations begin, Ulfric objects to Elenwen being involved in this council, saying how the Thalmor should have nothing to do with Skyrim's politics. Each will direct them to their assistant (either Legate Rikke or Galmar Stone-Fist), and in most cases they will then end the conversation. Each of the following options is offered (if available), and can be accepted or declined until the score reaches zero or there are no more options. Take your seat 6. We represent the Emperor here." A minor hold is always available (once both minor holds have been conquered, the winning side controls eight holds and Season Unending will not start). With an exchange of holds now on the table, the two sides of the negotiation take stock. The negotiations will escalate until one faction will threaten to leave. ", Esbern: "Stop! If I can get the Greybeards to host a peace council, I can try to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. You are given the choice of whether to accept or refuse each of the offers. Chadonraz Well-Known Member. The other side requests a hold in exchange. Speaking to the participants in the Peace Council, 'moving' them into the Council Room (either via the console or by using Unrelenting Force), or waiting for 24 hours may fix this. For the purposes of this quest, only The Reach and The Rift can be traded. You can be neutral, only you won't be viewed as neutral. Otherwise, the disgruntled side continues to complain about the unfairness of the treaty, and then come up with another suggestion. His dialogue reveals the meaning behind the quest's name: "Season unending" is the ancient Nord term for war, and thus reflects Arngeir's ongoing pessimism about the usefulness of the truce. I need to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. The large range of possible holds under discussion means that there are many possible dialogues during this discussion. It is possible to bypass this entirely, however, if you leave High Hrothgar quickly enough. Esbern: "Don't you understand the danger? Elisif the Fair: "Wait. Each major hold that changes sides counts for two points. You may enter. ", Arngeir: "Now that that's settled, may we proceed?" But she is to observe, nothing more. ... By the time of negotiatio ns I had already joined t he Legion and here were m y Choices for a neutral t ruce. General Tullius. Skyrim will never bow to the Thalmor! I said I'd handle it. General Tullius: "We're here to arrange a temporary truce to allow the Dragonborn here to deal with the dragons. (This was not always meant to be the case—see the Notes section for details.) The Dragonborn will speak to the Greybeards, who will agree to help negotiate a truce. I should have listened to you in the first place. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Yes, let's get this over with. Regardless of your choices, a truce is always signed at the end of the quest, but the terms of the truce affect subsequent gameplay, and control whether or not you get a quest reward. Follow/Fav Season Unending. In addition, they can tell them that they are not interested in dealing with politics. Why delay? Unlike your Imperial friends here." The Season Unending main quest is explained in detail, accommodating a neutral path. General Tullius: "I don't know about the end of the world, but this dragon situation has gotten out of hand. First, finish the quest. This can be solved by ensuring all finishing quest stages have been properly completed, specifically stages past 300. Evgiir Unslaad, or "Season Unending" is the Ancient. This means that the opening demand is always for The Reach (if being made by the Stormcloaks) or for The Rift (if being made by the Imperials). Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Yes, I'm ready to do my part. Sky Haven TempleHigh Hrothgar I never joined any sides yet. The reverse holds if the score is negative. You get the quest "Season Unending" while doing the quest "The Fallen". The Jarl will also suggest talking to the Greybeards, as both General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak highly respect them. Here's what I've got based on the available choices/branches: Phase 1: Choose if the Thalmar biatch gets to stay or leave. Community content is available under. That's our price for agreeing to a truce." Most other bugs can be resolved by completing one or more Civil War quests — either through to the end of The Jagged Crown (. This shows the truce negotiation when Whiterun is in Stormcloak control. This quest is skipped if the Civil War questline has already been completed, regardless of who the Dragonborn sided with. When active, this stage puts a forced hold on all Civil War combat quests (except for the "Battle for Whiterun"), preventing the selection of key dialogue options to trigger them. If the Dragonborn has joined a side, and the agreement is beneficial or neutral for their side, their chief negotiator (Tullius or Ulfric) will compliment the Dragonborn's efforts and reward them with a leveled weapon. This council wasn't my idea. However, the major hold may have already been lost in the civil war, in which case it cannot be traded. General, you've proven yourself a good friend to Skyrim. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following: *Disclosure: Some of the links above are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, Fandom will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. If the score is greater than zero, the treaty favors the Imperials, and the Stormcloaks will ask for more concessions (if possible). ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "Skyrim will never again bow to your false Empire! You would then be able to switch to the other side. So I found that whole bit rather interesting, and wanted to break down all the possibilities. As you complete more of the Reunification of Skyrim or Liberation of Skyrim, it becomes more and more difficult to negotiate a treaty that favors your faction and thus elicit a reward. ", Legate Rikke: "I knew he wouldn't be able to resist." You're here to blacken the Empire's name, and I won't be party to it. The scores associated with each choice in the negotiation are summarized in the tables in the following sections, for the Imperial and Stormcloak variants of the quest. While listening to Esbern, he asks Delphine if Esbern is with her, referring to her by name. I believe I can be of help here. General Tullius: "One moment." Spoiler Your decisions during "Season Unending" Discussion in 'General Skyrim Discussion' started by Chadonraz, Sep 28, 2013. How Ulfric Stormcloak met Elenwen. This quest governs the overall progress of the Civil War for the Stormcloaks. *SPOILERS* User Info: HBOSS. Even now, he devours the souls of your fallen comrades! The end result of the negotiations is always that the two sides (the Imperial Legion and the Stormcloaks) exchange control over one or more holds — the government (most notably the governing Jarl) in any exchanged hold is replaced. Some stages may therefore repeat objectives seen in other stages. Upon completing the ". In pure diplomatic terms, the best outcome of the negotiations that can be achieved is to gain one major and one minor Hold for trading one major Hold only. Rather than helping either the Stormcloaks or the Imperials to win the war, the player talks to leaders on both sides and negotiates a truce.… Legate Rikke: "You're lucky I respect the Greybeards' council, Galmar!" Prerequisite All the blood spilled in this war is on your head. Tullius begins negotiations by demanding that Riften (and its hold, the Rift) be given to the Imperials. Immediately after you complete “Alduin's Bane,” you will start the quest “Season Unending” if you haven't completed the Civil War questline. ", Arngeir: "Are we ready to proceed? The side with which you are affiliated will talk to you and tell you their opinion of the treaty. There is no difference in the speech other than at the end. The status of the negotiations is tracked internally by a score, which ideally totals zero at the end of the discussion. Blades Talk to General Tullius 3. Galmar Stone-Fist/Vignar Gray-Mane: "Yes, my lord." Regardless of whether Whiterun is under the rule of Balgruuf the Greater or Vignar Gray-Mane, the Jarl will agree to capture Odahviing without talking to the Greybeards, and the main questline will be continued. Once you take your seat at the table you will be unable to get up for the duration of the meeting and the negotiations will start. What were your choices during the Season Unending peace treaty and what are the consequences that people should know about when making their choices? Liberate The Pale. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Come on, Tullius, you can't seriously expect us to just hand over Riften at the negotiating table. Ulfric Stormcloak: "If he's right about Alduin... we both have just as much to lose here, Tullius, remember that. For example: Characters from the conference may endlessly walk up and down the stairs just outside High Hrothgar, not responding to the Dragonborn and not otherwise participating in any quest dialogue or events. This can be fixed by repeatedly tapping the activate button when speaking to Galmar or Ulfric. Furthermore, only minor holds that have not previously been traded in the negotiations are available — the minor hold (if traded) at phase one is never offered. General Tullius: "Don't listen to him. To proceed, simply finish and exit the first dialogue, then start a new discussion, at which point the option will appear. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Enough, Galmar." Season Unending is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Next Quest ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "Enough posturing, Tullius. Furthermore, it is best to do this quest soon after choosing a side in the civil war. If this is done for both sides, then Markarth will be taken by the Stormcloaks, and Riften will be taken by the Imperials. Arngeir: "I'm sure General Tullius does not expect something for nothing." If the treaty favors them, they will be happy and give you a reward. They will keep saying that a mission is ongoing. Therefore your first task is to travel to High Hrothgar and convince Arngeir that you need his help to stop the war. Arngeir: "But the difficulty remains - how to lure a dragon to Dragonsreach at all?" I have recently come back to playing Skyrim and I've run into Season Unending again. Ulfric Stormcloak: "You know exactly... no. ", Arngeir: "Now that that's settled, may we proceed?" Raidy 9 years ago #1. Location You then need to convince both Ulfric (at the Palace of the Kings in Windhelm) and Tullius (at Castle Dour in Solitude) to attend the truce negotiations. He says that if a peace treaty can be agreed between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks, he will help capture and hold a dragon. The Fallen Anyways, I've done some research on this quest and I'm just not … Alduin must be stopped. Some empty promises? ", Arngeir: "It seems we may have an agreement. Season Unending - neutral choice? We are gathered here at the Dragonborn's request. I continue to trust that you will do your utmost to safeguard our interests." ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "The Dragonborn has spoken, Tullius. ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "Come on, Galmar. An exchange of a minor Hold the opposition has. Normally, you get to choose between the losing side's major hold and one of its minor holds. However, when it comes time to make a counter-demand, everyone turns to you: you are asked to suggest which hold should be exchanged for the Reach/Rift. You will skip this quest altogether if you've already completed The Battle for Windhelm/Solitude. My men would never stoop to such methods, even in retaliation for your butchery at..." You can now head to High Hrothgar.Once again find Arngeir, who will inform you that all the invited guests are now in the council room.I'd recommend staying here for a moment, as you will witness the arrival of Delphine and Esbern (screen above), demanding permission to participate in the negotiations. If you instead suggest the minor hold, your side will question the decision, and give you another chance to opt for the major hold. You are not welcome here." While he won't be compelled to come when called, dragons are, naturally, arrogant creatures, and he will not ignore this challenge. Vignar Gray-Mane: "Yes, I'm ready to do my part. To agree with Ulfric and eject Elenwen from the meeting. It is now time for the faction that has been favored less (and thus "losing" the negotiations) to ask for additional concessions. With Esbern's help, I persuaded General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. You're in no position to dictate terms to us, Tullius! A net score of zero means that the truce is balanced and does not favor either side. We would not think of interfering in your civil war." We can hold Riften against anything the Empire can throw at it." ", Ulfric Stormcloak: "That's quite an opening demand, Tullius." Arngeir: "But the difficulty remains - how to lure a dragon to Dragonsreach at all?" Legate Rikke: "Sorry, sir. The choices will vary based on what side the Dragonborn has aligned Themselves with for the Civil War quest line. Galmar Stone-Fist: "Here we go." General Tullius: "You don't really expect compensation every time a farm gets burned in a war that you started, do you Ulfric? General Tullius: "Thank you, Jarl Elisif. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Is he with you, Delphine? Are you so blind to our danger that you can't see past your petty disagreements? Ulfric Stormcloak: "As always, the Empire's fine words are worth nothing! Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Convince all parties to attend a truce negotiation. We will do whatever I decide is in the best interests of Skyrim. However, Delphine and Esbern will show up demanding entrance to the conference, representing the Blades. You dare to insult the Greybeards by using this council to advance your own position?" It is implied that Ulfric Stormcloak already knew Delphine before the events of "Season Unending." If you are an Imperial soldier, and the treaty is against them, Tullius will claim you are not loyal, saying "You swore an oath of loyalty to the Emperor, do you remember that?" If you have joined that side's faction you will receive as reward one leveled enchanted weapon. Elisif the Fair: "General, this is outrageous! How do you stay neutral at the peace council? The meeting may not start after the Dragonborn has taken a seat. The opening demand is always made by the side that is opposed to the Dragonborn's allegiance. Season Unending Tullius or Ulfric will ask what the Dragonborn's thoughts are: The choice made counts as a 'score' to the side the Dragonborn agrees with. Starting by talking to Ulfric is somewhat easier, because he can be successfully persuaded as long as your Speech skill is at least 25; Tullius requires a Speech skill of 50 to be persuaded. ", Arngeir: "Jarl Baalgruf, I assume you are familiar with the Dragonborn's plan?" ", General Tullius: "Soon enough I'll have you back under the headsman's axe, and this time there won't be any dragon to save you." Season Unending / Peace Council - all choices broken down (SPOILERS) User Info: Raidy. In each case, you get to decide whether to agree to the additional term. Browse through and take season unending tests. In particular, each hold has a different set of dialogues detailing the advantages to controlling that hold. This page was last modified on 20 June 2019, at 22:18. My archer has not made ANY contact to either side after Helgen & choose to go with the imperial there. Elenwen: "Ulfric, why so hostile? Quest ID The Stormcloaks will take the deal either way. A series of offers is made to appease the side that warned the congregation that they would leave. They never will, but will at least say that they feel they are treated unfairly. This quest starts early in the concurrent quest, The Fallen, but only if the Jarl of Whiterun (Balgruuf or Vignar) insists that a truce must be negotiated before allowing Dragonsreach to be used to capture a dragon. After jumping through hyperspace attempting to lose the Ori warships their shields eventually fail, and their only chance to save the ship is to activate a Time dilation field, wherein SG-1remain trapped for fifty years, whilst Carter attempts t… Not this time. You wouldn't have called this council if you didn't agree. He grows more powerful with every soldier slain in your pointless war! These are the terms currently on the table. and Ulfric and Tullius are too busy grandstanding to actually even make sense. The person who responds is determined by whoever has gotten the shorter end of the negotiations so far. It won't happen again. ", General Tullius: "I know you, Ulfric. ", Elenwen: "I have every right to be at this negotiation. Good luck." Talking to the Empire is just as useless as ever. If this truce will help the Dragonborn here put an end to that menace, we both gain. The primary factor influencing the quest is which side you have joined (if any) in the Civil War; this alters the overall options, as well causing more subtle changes to various dialogues. Normally, you get to choose between the losing side's major hold and one of its minor holds. ", Legate Rikke: "You slaughtered the very people you claim to be fighting for! Conversely, her departure makes the Stormcloaks happier, but angers Rikke. Even after everyone sits down, there are more delays, with a short speech from the side that is not in control of Whiterun emphasizing their reluctance to be participating in these truce negotiations. Arngeir: "You were not invited here. Ulfric Stormcloak: "By Talos, that's an excellent question. If you have not yet joined either the Imperial Legion or the Stormcloaks, and you have not talked to Ulfric and/or Tullius since Helgen, you will be forced to first talk to them about Helgen, at which point they will suggest that you join their side of the conflict. If the Dragonborn continues to favor one side, the other will eventually say that they will, after all, act for the greater good, and they will agree to the terms in any case. You will be allowed by the new jarl to buy property in holds that change hands if the hold is one that has property available, including Hearthfire properties if you have Hearthfire installed. The demand is that they be given a major hold. I was going to point out that there was the slight downside of this mod making you unable to get an achievement for completing Season Unending, but as it turns out even the devs thought it was nonsense and didn't even make an achievement for it. Sometimes the meeting will never start, even when you are seated. Being originally neutral, and therefore not part of any trades, Whiterun is excluded for it is implicitly at the heart of the negotiations. This indicates there were originally plans to make it possible for both sides to be asked to pay compensation for a massacre which could have happened at variety of possible locations. You don't have to do anything, as Arngeir will agree. Walkthrough: written by Nephele, not checked. If you're balanced, Tullis still accuses you of bias. Legate Rikke: "That's a lie! Remember that, Ulfric." Ulfric objects to having a Thalmor representative at the table. Should the Dragonborn not have sided with the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in the Civil War yet, Jarl Balgruuf the Greater will demand some form of temporary truce between the warring factions before agreeing to help capture a dragon using his Dragonsreach during The Fallen quest. To agree with Tullius and keep Elenwen in the meeting. After completing the peace treaty with both sides, the Civil War questline is halted until the main quest has been fully completed. 1. Arngeir, on his reluctance to host a peace council: Ulfric Stormcloak's initial response to the Greybeards' message: Tullius' initial response, specifically when warned about the dragon menace: Tullius' explanation for why he does not have enough reinforcements (only heard if you go to Tullius first, are not allied with the Stormcloaks, and do not try to persuade him): The Greybeards are the only group who command enough respect to broker a truce in the civil war. ", Arngeir: "Are we ready to proceed? This can be done by opening the console, clicking on him, then typing "disable" and "enable." Season Unending begins during The Fallen, when you try to convince the Jarl to use his Hold to capture a dragon. If you came to talk, let's get on with it." I thought we were here to discuss a truce!" This section contains bugs related to Season Unending. Fortunately, his speech is enough to persuade everyone to sit back down and resume the talks. Delphine: "He is with me. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Pay no attention to him. Having her stay makes the Imperials happier with the overall truce, but causes Galmar to nearly storm out. Galmar Stone-Fist: "Aye! Joined: Jan 21, 2013 Messages: 1,103 Likes Received: 504 Reputation: 369 Spoiler tag just in case. Delphine: "We have as much right to be at this council as all of you. If the treaty is neutral, they will be "disappointed," believing that "You gave too much away. Alduin has returned! Only minor holds can be traded in phase two. "Season Unending" triggers stage 255 of the overall Civil War quest ("CW"), a stage which is specially designed to stop the war while the peace conference is in session. I'm having serious frustration trying to complete the "Season Unending" quest on Skyrim. On my first playthrough, it did it WITHOUT ever doing Season Unending because the civil war was running deep when I got to this point. Delphine: "So. There is no dialogue during the quest to suggest that the two are meeting for the first time in High Hrothgar. Let's go, Galmar. Galmar Stone-Fist: "By Talos, the stones on this one! General Tullius: "Fine. Sometimes, "Season Unending" will not complete gracefully, causing quest stages for both it and the overall Civil War quest (id "CW") to not engage properly. Other than this incident, she has no real role in the negotiations. Stream songs including "Spellcaster". Riften be turned over to the Greybeards ' council, and I least! 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