NGR Description Centred NS55416 65081. I lived with my aunt and uncle (Mary Steven, Mailey) my aunt was a cook in Ibrox. Henry (Harry) Knop was born in Govan in 1902, he married Susan Bowie in 1924, they had at least 5 children; Harriet, Frederick, Arthur, Helen and Henry, Harry Knop died in 1976. My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). we were easy pleased in those days. Contents Where Were Hanged In Glasgow? Contact Us. Prihlsi sa. I lived at 73 Nethan Street, Govan. [31] GEC's Marconi Marine division already owned YSL (purchased in 1985) and VSEL (purchased in 1995). With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. Reply. Besides, authority cannot work without community and vice versa so there has to be a coming together of both sides and a change of thinking by each about how and why things get done if both parties are to do the right thing. In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. I remember our next door neigbours on the ground floor the Meechans and particularly John,who was around the same age as myself. 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D. LAING from Wisdom, Madness and Folly, ALEX CATHCART Nostalgically Speaking Imagination is Money. Other Sundays maybe Helen and I would visit the graves of our mothers at Cardonald Cemetery (her mother died when she was 5). Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company was renamed Govan Shipbuilders in 1973. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. J. N. REILLY There is a war on. : Gwovan[3]? Galbraith shop opposite Elderpark, they sold us kids a bag of broken biscuits. The partnership works by: By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. Wine Alley feels very European and I love it! If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. View listing information for 7285 Hedgerose Drive, Cumming, GA, 30028. Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. Govan's earliest recorded name may be found in the Historia regum Anglorum attributed to Symeon of Durham. The idea behind the hotel was to employ local people and to draw in money to the area. I remember a little dog who was hit by a car and people brought him straight in to us. "And so for the time being I have finished this series (4th book comming this year) what an amazing book I especially loved the mention of the wine alley in govan as that's where my mama is from! Doublers; Rounders; Kick the Can; Ropes I could go on and on particularly with the little verses we once recited lodged in my brain still! Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. When they married on the 29/4/1939 they moved to Hillington. Without a home, mankind has no place. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. dealing, drug abuse, and money lending had flourished in a big way since 1975, which only added to the schemes wretchedness. Read More. The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. Later that year Burnside was handed a 12-year prison sentence at the High Court in Glasgow following an 18-day trial, while his three associates got terms of between five and seven years. My cousins and I thought we should try this. [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. When they checked the mileage they realise it was being used for much longer trips of up to 600 miles a time. They expect 20 calls a week from officers needing help. Knowing a house which was empty he pre-emptively sought approval from the council to use it as part of the operation. Darner had two criticisms of the improvement programme. Darners later thoughts on a solution to the schemes problems were that it could be found in Community Planning for, as he says, members of the underclass are not helpless and passive victims of structural circumstances. Went to the new Hills Trust School in about 1975 where Mrs Carnegie was head teacher. Editors' Code of Practice. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. Glorious Govan. NGR NS 55416 65081. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. A similar uncertainty existed regarding the nearby lands of Pollokshields and Westends. The answer is 1 authority is necessary because it plays an indispensable mediating role at local and city level through bringing togeth locals and officials. We lived in Linthouse at that time, and then we moved to Shaw Street in Govan. Contact. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. I am looking for the name of a barbers shop that was on Langlands Road at Helen street end. Drumoyne primary it was, a year after my big brother Robert started (about 53) then on to Govan High School, that was the one which caught fire when I was due to sit my O levels (no excuses). I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. However, the dealers were less careful back in Wine Alley where they thought they were untouchable. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. He also sold single woodbine cigarettes out the packet. Every Christmas I was given a big pile of unsold comics and one day the woman gave me a bob - 12 big penny coins that filled my hand. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to Finalists in the Intermediate Cup 1929-30, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moorepark,_Glasgow&oldid=1142353497, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 1 March 2023, at 23:16. In 1136, when Glasgow Cathedral was formally consecrated, King David I (112453) gave to the See the lands of Partick and also of the church at Govan (on opposite sides of the River Clyde), which became a prebend of Glasgow. Forgotten account? My Aunt Marg and Cousin Debbie still live in Govan. Show More . Wine Alley by Colin Quigley. Seven generations of our family have been born in Govan. 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. I was born at 17 Holmfaulhead Drive, Linthouse in 1947 and went to Elderpark School. It meant that the police had two key surveillance points, one in Wine Alley itself and a second from the high-rise. If I could I would have bought many! See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. Wine Alley Govan Kids Southern General Hospital On the Clyde Govan Kvaerner/Fairfield Shipyards Govan Shipyards ( Front gate pics ) The Plaza/Vogue Govan Dry Docks Trams in Govan/ Goods Carriers Inside the Lyceum Bingo/Picture Hall Lyceum Projection Room Lyceum Foyer & Balcony Foyer Lyceum Cinema Balcony Inside The Lyceum Govan Baths Harhill When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. If either cop was caught then they were on a hiding to nothing. "[13], By the early part of the 19th century, Govan was rapidly losing its rural appearance and assuming the character of a town with the development of new industries and factories, including Reid's Dye Works and Pollok's Silk Mill. The writer on housing problems, T. A. Markus, wondered why many important questions were never asked in the planning process. There was a milk depot (Cuthbertson's Dairy) at the bottom of the street where we used to go and if we were lucky they would let us feed the horses, those were the days, how I loved going to the Plaza every Saturday morning to the ABC minors and when it was our birthday we got to go up on the stage and everyone sang to us. My parents lived at 49 Nethan Street and I was born at the Southern General in 1939. Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. 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I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. I used to visit your Mum and Dad. Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. ), the street was a dead end because a school had burnt down. Around 1963 we moved to Arden where I went St Louise Primary School. Glorious Govan. Nobody like them in the World. When the railway was to be built in the late nineteenth century, however, the confusion over proper descriptions in the land titles made necessary legal transactions difficult and had to be reconciled. It was later in 1974 that she began her Stairhead Seminars in the so-called "Wine Alley" area of Govan which led, in 1976, to the Govan Project. Recent studies of the archaeology of Govan Old have revealed the presence of an ancient Christian church. Reply. [29], Kvrner of Norway, as part of a planned development of a large international shipbuilding group, took over Govan. It brought tears to our eyes as they have destroyed a lot of the buildings that should have been refurbished. I went to Broomloan Rd nursery then the school. Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! Portrait of a Lady by Esme Clark. That suggested that the suspect was taking the van south to Manchester or Liverpool to pick up much larger drug consignments. I can see from the various pieces of information I have obtained that the Leddy's lived in various places in Govan including 61 Victoria Street, 10 John Street, 76 White Street and 11 Logie Street. Years ago Govan was a brilliant shopping place. Like Pauline I also went to St. Margaret's and I also recall Susan's Shop. It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. February 15, 2020 at 4:10 PM @ Anonymous LMFAO ! (they lived up the pen at No. Born 1945, 28 Craigton Road two up in the hole in the wall, I went to Greenfield Primary remember headmaster name a Mr Hutchinson, a Miss Burnside, miss Blackstock. I went to St. Margaret's and I remember Susan's shop where she would stand outside to see where people where buying their messages from. Damer (who lived for six months in the scheme) wanted to find out how and why such places came to exist, and what could be done to help them. 102m Harley's ice cream parlour . I remember the baths and went there every Friday, I also remember playing in the street and when the coalman came my mum and I would follow him with a pram and pick up any coal that fell of the lorry. In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. Within it and its roughly circular churchyard is one of the finest collections of Early Christian stones in the United Kingdom, known as the Govan Stones, dating from the c.9th to 11th centuries. Napier's Shipyard in Govan was later acquired by William Beardmore and Company in 1876 and incorporated into William Beardmore and Company in around 1900. [20], Traditionally viewed as a lower working-class area, Govan has typically supported the Labour Party, but the Scottish National Party (SNP) has also been strong there. Great times. 11/2. No1seems2care. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. 5 This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. 10 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 91 Following decades of decline, with existing residents experiencing prejudice and only those with little other choice willing to move to the area, Moorepark was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in the United Kingdom, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). 199310 Scottish Charity No. Third, the importance of housing management services such as concierge or neighbourhood warden duties are understated in the document, and they are not considered as playing a core public service in the maintenance and upkeep of the areas they service.10 I used to walk up Neptune Street between the two grandparents homes, but even that seems to have been cut off. It is now an industrial estate . My cousin Pat and I were just reminiscing about memories of the Steamie - which I think I was dragged along to, to help Mrs. Mary Devlin, in about 1965? You never forget these things, but what great days and what character building it was. Yet, there is still much to show that community power is not only real but can work effectively. Only a few years into it, faults like dampness had begun to appear in the tower blocks of the Laurieston/ Gorbals project, which rapidly turned into a disaster area. Went back recently, but things are not the same. My father "served his time" in the Thermotank then for many years was a policeman in Plantation Street. He said: "So I had a house and I had a supply, because I knew someone who could get me smack. One of his best customers was a former police officer who had been thrown out the force due to his heroin addiction. My dad was taken in to see the wee boy, turns out it was me. Great memories of Summertown Road baths. They were both always on a mission to land a. Renton, WA 98058. What Damer said about community could also be said about officialdom for they too can be victims of circumstance whenever decisions for the better do not influence policies for the worse. This company continued until 1965, when it filed for bankruptcy. Glasgow Braendam Link, aims to support, empower and enable all those involved in the partnership to gain more control of their lives by encouraging self-belief, growth and development. Value 3/4 . I was born 23 Elder Street, Govan in 1943. Much later, after years of drink and drugs abuse, I thought about all the time I had wasted and I realised that if I was going to seriously change my life than I had to reeducate myself into a new way of thinking Govan is served by Govan Subway Station, Ibrox Subway Station and Cessnock Subway Station on the Glasgow subway system. We were also in the Choir at Govan Parish church and in the B.B. Tel: 0141 440 1999, Fax: 0141 440 1367 , [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. History [ edit] The wine in the Wine Alley nickname was not expensive red and whites like Beaujolais and merlot. Mind you, the mice we lifted them out of a glass tank by the tail then put them in thick brown bags of thinnish white boxes for their journey home and I'm convinced most would have chewed through and escaped within minutes of leaving the shop. They share a rivalry with St Anthony's F.C. Water was always roasting hot and bath was very deep used to spend hours in it; and who can forget the carbolic soap!!! Interest. Thus, when Renfrewshire was created out of a sheriffdom of Lanarkshire in the early fifteenth century, the lands associated with the hospital (Polmadie) were not technically in the newly created shire, as they were not part of the sheriffdom. Sometimes it was hillarious, waiting in the queue to get onto that seat, and having to use The News of The World as toilet paper.wow! I went to Harmony Row school and below is my class photograph from around 1957, I have given the names as far as I remember starting at the back row left. During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. I lived my early years in Govan on Vicarfield Street opposite St. Gerard's School where many of my older cousins attended, amongst them the McCurrys. My da was George Paterson, mum was Betty Paterson my child hood there was brill everyone was so friendly and you could trust everybody. Conecteaz-te. Best people you could meet. The Burnside gang were found with 150,000 in heroin and a large sum in cash. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. My grandmother's name was Mary Murray she had eight children one being my mother Helen who was born in 1927. Hi, I'm not from Govan though my grandparents, Janet (Nettie) and David Finlayson owned a newsagents in Neptune Street in the 1940s/1950s. Nostalgic 3w Siobhan McCrone Joseph McCrone Going down the pyramids on a bread crate all good till ur fingers caught underneath 7 4w 1 Reply
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